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We’re finally getting video of the BlackBerry Venice running, you guessed it, Android. We’ll talk about a new portal for webcasts, an IoT asset tracking proof of concept go over highlights from John Chens fireside chat at the Waterloo Innovation Summit and more!

Please leave us a comment on the posting so we can engage and incorporate your commentary!

Upstream #66 ~ “Leaky”
September 14th – September 20th

Enterprise Webcast Central
• BlackBerry Asset Tracking IoT Concept
Waterloo Innovation Summit Fireside Chat

• BlackBerry Venice Leaked Video & Images

Join us, leave a comment and share in the discussion.


@flip4bytes – Alex B. @ abass.co
@chriscreveling – Chris C.
@jmznvs – James N. EIC @ BerryFlow
@Bla1ze – EIC @ CrackBerry


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  • Well after noodling around I see it is slated to be the priv will sell at a lofty $700 in the US… if the fone isn’t given out by ATT for free with contract, I predict BlackBerry will sell dozens before the rush wears off…

  • Agung Prastyo

    why should be android

  • Merritt Cluff

    Passionate discussion. Probably Chen himself is sweating over the same issues. Within the company there must be a huge divide. My view is that an android phone is needed. But BlackBerry should not give up on bb10. Look at how much money apple is making from its product, and reinvesting. I think BlackBerry should segment it’s market and charge more for its security profile to governments and companies who will pay for it. Android is not making money. Unless BlackBerry can monetize it’s security profil e and reinvest in innovation to further keep ahead, it can not survive.

    • Agung Prastyo

      I support u

  • Kevin

    Can’t wait to listen, thanks for doing this every week! Really enjoy it.

    I can’t wait for the Venice haven’t been this excited about a phone since the z10.

    • Is the Venice going to be a premium device like the passport, when are we going to see this device.

    • James Nieves

      Should see the high end Venice BlackBerry Slider come in towards the end of November!

  • PaulD

    Hi Gents,

    Good show tonight, lots of Venice leaks for sure, wonder if the leaker is going to get in trouble, the device is not announced yet ! This device is a smart business move (my preference is BB10), but see how it goes sell some phones, help grow BB10 with revenue from this. I will likely get the Slider, but my preference is a Silver Edition Slider, or a 1/2 Slider or best is the Visa/Victoria as they are not as long. The full slider is too long for me when it is open.

    I still think THE BEST device for BlackBerry to launch now is the Visa/Victoria, typing on the Passport is amazing, and want that on a 5.25in. size ! It would show the Passport innovation on Android.

    Maybe we can get a Samsung Tab S Pro 8.4 tablet with the BB Android version on it… I have 1 of those would be great to get rid of TouchWiz !

    Have a good week

    • James Nieves

      I like your line of thinking I would agree with your points!

      Typed this comment on a BlackBerry Passport :D

  • Ija Ali

    Maybe they are making both versions James. I’m with alex, I believe this phone changes perception and brings in cash to make moves for BlackBerry going forward.

    • James Nieves

      Undoubtedly but what it does for the hardware business long term remains rather shrouded. Especially when you inhibit BlackBerry 10 you lose part of the ecosystem that BlackBerry was just starting to foster. I’ll hope the best for the Slider but I still believe it’s a shot in the dark…

    • Ija Ali

      I understand your argument. Trust me, I want nothing more but for BlackBerry to thrive. I’ve had 10 BlackBerry’s since 2008 and every bb10 phone including my gorgeous silver se. But I do understand that eco systems have become the foundation of the mobile being. Not the phones. With that said, we started seeing not only consumers but enterprises moving on with androids not for the phones but the eco system. More and more businesses are running their enterprises through apps in which BlackBerry either can’t get or it runs bad. This move is for so many reasons. An attempt to stop the bleeding due to byod and join the party. It’s just one phone. BlackBerry has maintained that they are not scrapping bb10 and will continue to build. However, if they continue to do what they’ve been doing, we could see the handset business phased out altogether. If it means making an android skinned BlackBerry to save the handset department in order to then grow and continue with bb10 in the future, I’m all for it.

    • Chris

      I don’t think they are making both versions, at least not yet. I asked an employee who is involved with new phones, and sadly he said no. I hope he is wrong, but doesn’t seem that way.